Comments on: e on 4e: Creating a Character

By: Graham

Graham — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:04:18 +0000

I think it’s more that some people (both powergamers and anti-powergamers) think powergaming is a substitute for roleplaying.

By: Ryan

Ryan — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:58:35 +0000

I haven’t tried 4th ed yet but the fact that I can’t convert my feral human mineral warrior – fighter, cleric, human paragon, barbarian, frenzied bezerker, totemist, warblade into a 4th version has me upset..

Ok that was a joke, I’m not upset. Hes fine wreaking havoc in 3.5 where he belongs.

On a side note powergaming AND roleplaying IS possible. So many people seem to think otherwise. Its usually due to powergamers who just suck at roleplaying me thinks.

By: Dave

Dave — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:53:02 +0000

4e character creation and resource management is slightly more complex than 3e for non-casters. The tradeoff is that is’s much easier than 3e for casters (and remember back in 3e that 7 of 11 core classes were casters), and high level casters don’t break the game.

By: e

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:38:26 +0000

IT WAS A HARD CHOICE!!

By: Graham

Graham — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:02:12 +0000

@Mystrich -

I firmly believe it feels like so long to e solely because she:
- has never made a 3e caster, and
- is paralysed by choice.

Seriously, it took her 10 minutes to choose 3 skills.

As far as the Str/Wis thing goes, it isn’t a point buy. Additionally, the melee powers are only there because she wanted healing powers (Healing Strike is actually recomended in the Devited Cleric build), and I encouraged her to take one melee at-will power if she was going to take melee and close encounter/daily powers.

As she goes up in level, the majority she will take will likely be healing powers, or ranged and close attacks.

So no need to worry.

By: Mystrich

Mystrich — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:45:32 +0000

Nevermind me, I didn’t see the magic sheild. You really need to add an edit button so I don’t have to triple post.

By: Mystrich

Mystrich — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:39:19 +0000

Also, looking at the sheet:
1. Your powers seem pretty melee based, and as nice as a 19 Wisdom is, an 18 gives the same bonus. I’d say take out the 3 points to lower it by 1 and bring Strength to 14 and put that 1 point in Con. The +2 on Str based attacks will help with your encounter and melee at-will powers.

2. Where is the daily power to reduce damage by 10 for you and an ally coming from?

By: Mystrich

Mystrich — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:26:32 +0000

Really? I found it so much easier and faster. Skills were much more of a hassle, and since I tended to pick spellcasters, most characters used to end up done while I was still working. Now in the time it used to take me to pick everything, I can teach someone 4e it seems.

By: Milarky

Milarky — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:41:40 +0000

P.s i am worried about my wizard players thought seem to have the hardest time adjusting i really wanna give them loads of none combat or non offensive spells to choose from.
grease, jump, illusions, etc.. im dunno wether to go for new rituals or new powers of feats just yet… thought.
we need a offical non combat caster book! and the thevery skill one skill does all its bit thief takes a lot of the lime light now as main damage dealer, and main avoid traps and encounters skills
P.s i like new combaty cleric too.

By: Milarky

Milarky — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:34:24 +0000

Humms not sure what you meani can make a char in 15 mins, there is so very little choice now, every thief fighter war seems the same, the only diffrence is the roleplay of the characters,
SO basic the system is easier but you need an extra imaginative head to describe the powers how your characters would “cast them”

im not power game im a fluff gamer but so far looks easy and nice, only complaiers i see are power gamers, who need to have many +1 and +2s sure there are ways and good way sto max and min but for me its easyer to show and teach, so long as you have a good RPG background i can work in the stats dont both me to much..